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Talk:BJB - Steuerbetrug Juerg Grossmann - EUR 25 mil

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Sehr geehrte Herren/Damen,

wir kennen Juergen Grossmann gut und er hat ein Villa auf Malorca, die wahrscheinlich auch nicht in seineer Steuererklaerung erscheint. Details werden wir dem Steueramt in Kiehl direkt mitteilen.

Vielleicht hilft dies, dass wir normale Arbeiter weniger Steuern zahlen muessen. Zumindest waere dies gerecht und ethisch sowie moralisch richtig.

Mit freundlichem Gruss

Ein Nachbar von Juergen Grossmann


According to an initial investigation, information provided in the documents does not harmonize with information of the life of Mr Juergen Grossmann. In case there is more information, please submit. This (unfortunatelly) appears to be a dead-end with the information provided.

Das Vermögen wird von diesem Grossmann, Jürg gehalten und die beiden arbeiten jedoch zusammen. Aus diesem Grund gibt es ein EUR und ein CHF Konto.

Grossmann, Jürg u. Ornella (-Longo) Golbrigweg 14 8702 Zollikon Dorf/ZH

  • 044 391 24 95

There do exist diffrent Jürgen Grossmann, eg an architect and a manager Maybe the information provided in the docs syncs with the manager?

Jürgen Grossmann

--2008-02-18 A Cat

[edit] The German of this leak is funny

I just happened to stumble across this entry. I am a native German speaker, and it may be of interest to others that the use of German in this story is strikingly incompetent. This makes me a bit suspicious of the amount of truth contained in these allegations.

Agree with previous contributor about the shambolic standard of German used. Dreadful, what do they teach at schools nowadays.




[edit] Agree with the above author

As a native speaker myself, i can only say that this leak doesn't appears to be real. It's probably translated via babelfish, because it features a horrible grammar and wording. It's a fake.

[edit] Juerg Grossmann's identity

Mr. Juerg Grossmann is known to have two residences at this stage. Those are held by a Company called Lapstrade. Those are

Juerg Grossmann, Esq. Calle Vieja 18 E-07196 Capdella Spain

Juerg Grossmann, Poligono 6 07196 Capdella Mallorca Spain

There have been also residences in Bremen, Germany and Gattikon, Switzerland. More to come. The investigation is on its way!

the accusations seem nothing but rubbish to me. there is no tax fraud if Grossmann doesn't have a tax residence in Germany. for "babelfish" the german grammar is too good but the text was definitely not composed by a native german speaker. the submitted "documents" could have been produced by anybody. why doesn't a single scan of any original document exist. why and on what basis the accusation "geldwäscherei" (swiss german for money laundering)?

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